Upon the 65th anniversary of the record label, CU Âé¶čÓ°Ôș prof says that from Taylor Swift to K-pop, âItâs all Motown; they are not creating anything newâ
Shawn OâNeal, assistant teaching professor in the Department of Ethnic Studies, canât remember a time growing up in the 1970s and 1980s when Motown music wasnât playing in his Chicago home.
âMy mother was very deep into the traditions of Motown musicâand not just the music, but what it represented aesthetically as well, when talking about (Motown founder) Berry Gordyâs vision of Black respectability,â he says. âDiana Ross and the Supremes, Marvin Gaye, Martha Reeves and the Vandellasâthose records were always being played in our house or coming out of the radio. So, that was always there.â
Itâs hard to quantify the effect Motownâand later musical developments inspired by Motown such as disco and house musicâhave had on his life, says OâNeal, who teaches classes on hip hop and ethnomusicology (the intersection of music and ethnicity), as well as classes on Africana and African American studies. He is an executive committee member for the CU Âé¶čÓ°Ôș Center for African and African American Studies.
âMotown did for me what a lot of other music did for me at the time, which was just opening up that intellectual curiosity in me, if you will,â he says. âMotown had this very unique sound to it than no one else was doing, just that tambourine coinciding with the backbeat and the four-on-the floor sound. Four on the floor represents a 4/4 time signature in music theory.
âAnd then when I was in middle school and high school, I was reading about Motown, about Detroit and about Black history. All of that led to my dissertation work on Audio Intersectionality, an interdisciplinary social science theory communicated through sound, music and performance,â says OâNeal, who is a renowned DJ and audio producer.
Motownâs impact upon on American culture is hard to understate. Started by Berry Gordy in January 1959 with $800 he borrowed from family members, became a powerhouse in music production as well as a cultural touchstone.
The record label would go on to produce a whoâs who of influential African American musiciansâincluding Smokey Robinson and the Miracles, Stevie Wonder, Marvin Gaye, the Temptations, and Diana Ross and the Supremesâwho would dominate the Billboard charts in the late 1960s. At one time, it was also the biggest Black-owned business in America prior to Gordy selling the record label for $61 million to MCA in 1988.
With Motown recently celebrating its 65th anniversary, Colorado Arts and Sciences Magazine asked OâNeal for his thoughts on how Motown produced so much great music, how some of its artists managed to create socially conscious but still grooving music, what constitutes the âMotown Soundâ and Motownâs legacy on modern music across genres. His responses have been lightly edited for style and condensed for space considerations.
Question: Motown was based in Detroit, which was not the musical center universe, yet it produced hit after hit in the 1960s and 1970s. To what do you attribute the record labelâs success?
°żâN±đČč±ô: Music is always just timing and circumstance, and a little bit of luck. Like, really hitting that pulse at the right moment, and they (Motown) were able to do that. I think Berry Gordy was obviously brilliant with developing this whole package.
The package had a look. For the women (performers) itâs the hairstyles, the makeup, the dresses, the heels, the movements during those songs. All of that was very rehearsed and very packaged in a way that America hadnât seen before.
Then you have a very dialed-in production team. You got the Funk Brothers. Youâve got Holland-Dozier-Holland turning out those hits. Everything was in-house and so controlled that once you had one hit song you could (repeat) something again that hit that pulse of America.
That crossover appeal was something that hadnât really happened previouslyânot on that magnitude. Then you can just keep churning out those songs in that formula.
You got the production team in place. You got the players, you got the bands, the musicians. Youâve got the look. It becomes a movement. To have a prominent movement, any type of social movement, youâve got the soundtrack, youâve got the aesthetics, the visual representation and the messaging. Itâs just such a complete package. We hadnât seen that before in music.
Honestly, I feel like Detroit was just where a lot of those people (musicians) were. Sometimes I wonder: Could that (Motown) have happened almost anywhere in this country where you had Black people that were talented and who needed someone who was able to manage things in a particular way bring it all together? Of course, you needed a Berry Gordy, which I donât know how many of those there are laying around. I mean, the brother knew what he was doing.
He knew what Black people wanted, but he also knew what white people wanted from Black people, which brings up a whole other conversation, because that stuff gets very tricky. Thereâs definitely a critical analysis on all of that.
Question: Was part of the success of Motown also due to the fact that the people running major record labels at the time were not thinking about producing music that had mass appeal?
°żâN±đČč±ô: Motown absolutely ended up being the model for music that had crossover appealâfor creating music that everyone is going to enjoy regardless of race and ethnicity. That was the original model.
And, not to take anything away from Berry Gordy, but part of his success is because a lot of the major record labels at the time in the 1950s and â60s were not thinking about producing music that appealed to the whole of the countryâto Blacks and whites.
This country is built on segregation. So, you have to ask yourself: Why would the white owners of European descent that own these record labels and these radio stations want to appeal to Black people? They werenât thinking that far ahead.
I think some white Americans were perfectly happy with the (idea of), 'Yâall stay over there and weâre going to stay here. Youâll have your bathroom and your water fountain and your music and weâve got ours.â
But wait a minute, all of your musicâI mean music of white European descentâis founded upon the traditions of African diasporic Black music coming out of slave plantations, coming of spirituals and gospel music, and even more predominantly from the tradition of blues music and jazz.
Question: At some point, some Motown artists wanted to infuse their music with social messages commenting on issues of the day, like Edwin Starâs âWarâ or âBall of Confusionâ by The Temptations. What was happening at the time to inspire that?
°żâN±đČč±ô: I think music shifts, just like in production and recording techniques, it shifts with peopleâs desire and ability to experiment. Thatâs how you get a Motown in the first place.
But then Motown is going through these metamorphoses as society goes through changes as well. In the mid-1960s going into the â70s, you have all of these social issues the country has been going through. You have the 1967 Detroit Riots. âŠ
After the riots, a lot of those artists had a little wakeup call, if you will. Some of those artists, like Marvin Gaye, were saying, âWe need to be singing about something else besides doo-wop.â A lot of those artists began to realize they had a responsibility beyond making music for crossover appeal. I think some of them started thinking about: Is it more important to have hits, or is it more important to communicate something that needs to be communicated, regardless of how people receive it, because everybodyâs emotions are their own.
Question: A lot of people talk about the âMotown Sound.â How would you describe it?
°żâN±đČč±ô: There is something about the backbeat, about the four on the floor beatsâjust a four/four, boom, boom, boom, boom that ends up transpiring in a song, because to this day a four-four (beat) is something that everybody can dance to, regardless of whether itâs at 90 BPMs or 140 BPMs. And there is the tambourine sound, which wasnât on every song, but it was there.
The other thing is there was a simplicity of the sound with the bass and with the arrangements. There was a simplicity of the arrangements, but the melodies were very, very intricate. If you have this simple beat, it gets everybody feeling good and grooving.
What that does, it allows the melody and the harmonicsâparticularly the vocal melodiesâto be very extravagant and to be very experimental.
Question: Motown had a golden period in the 1960s and 1970s and then went into a decline in the 1980s. What do you think were some of the factors that contributed to its decline?
°żâN±đČč±ô: Motown is closely associated with Detroit. And things really shifted in Detroit after the Detroit Riots. How could they not? Things just werenât the same after that. âŠ
With Gordyâs decision to relocate Motown to Los Angeles, it lost something. It lost that hometown feel. ⊠While I can understand why he did it, with LA becoming the center of entertainment, I think Motown lost something.
Later on, Motown had competition, because the competition could base itself off of what Motown did. Also, the music was changing, moving into disco. Things changed.
Question: Is it possible to quantify Motownâs impact on modern music?
°żâN±đČč±ô: I think the impact is never really going to end. If people are willing to look at the music they are making, they have to pay homage to Motown.
Who is huge now? Taylor Swift? All of these K-pop bands that are just blowing up in Korea? Itâs all Motown. They are not creating anything new. Theyâre adding their piece of the conversation into music history, but thatâs Motown music. So, because it keeps being recycled and perpetuated, the quantification of Motown becomes almost impossible to (state), because itâs still going; it doesnât stop.
Motown is intertwined in everything that goes on in this country, musically. Popular/commercial music is based upon that Motown-pop formula that was created there.
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